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looking at the i.r.s. of tax code. you have the north pacific, alaska. >>steve: it should be simple. we're going to go get them. >> think about it. now we own a part of a federal resource. it's been good for us that way. we can lease crab, buy crab, sell a crab. for us, it's been lucrative. but at the same time they do clamp down. every agency has got their fingers in us somehow. >>steve: who is the worst? who is the worst? >> they're all great! they're all great! >>steve: in the next season, i understand you guys face your toughest winter ever; right? there is a downturn? >> it's like groundhog day. it was tough. >>steve: why is that? just an off year? >> he'll say there is a lot of ice. flatout, climate change is an issue and it's impacted all the fisheries, all the seas, everything. incrementally a little at a time. you throw things out of whack a little bit and the whole marine ecosystem starts to shift. but our fisheries are healthy right now. >> it didn't feel like global warming to me, that's all i know. i'm telling you, it was cold. >>steve: of all the reality shows, i think you
be another one of those. but you have had the payroll tax increase go into effect. you've had sequestration go into effect. you have no growth in people's incomes. that was the more disappointing numbers out of the last unemployment insurance report. and if people don't have money, they can't spend money. and finally, we're being affected in the slowdown in europe in particular and the slowdown in the emerging markets. our export growth has fallen to about zero at the moment because there isn't demand overseas for our products. so it feels like a little bit of a soft spot, but we'll see. >> how much of this is consumer confidence, do you think? >> consumer confidence definitely plays a role. but consumers right now don't have the money to spend. and if they went out and spent, they'd be borrowing money. i don't think -- i think it's a more fundamental problem in a way than consumer confidence. >> steve, my long wait yesterday trying to get up to new york, in the lounge was tim geithner waiting for the flight, as well. i asked him, we're seeing these good signs in the economy, how much of it
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